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Jay ([personal profile] unseenspy) wrote2009-12-29 02:33 pm

[Voice] Trust?

[This whole "Christmas" thing has certainly left Jay with something to think about. Apparently, he's made the mistake of trusting someone and paid dearly for it. Well, he's paid them back, but that's beside the point. And thus, he'd like to get people's opinions to help him analyze a certain concept.]

I'd like to discuss something with everyone. How can you tell that you can truly trust someone? How do you know they won't abandon you?

[identity profile] james-morph.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know if opening a public forum on the subject is the best way to learn that, Jay.

[He's sprawled out on his bed, chin resting on his hands as he looks through the journal at Jay calmly]

[identity profile] unseenspy.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd just like to hear different opinions is all. I'm certain that everyone has different views on the subject, so I'm bound to learn something.

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hageshii: (Yeah whatever)

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[personal profile] hageshii 2009-12-29 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't. Friends are a liability, kid. You keep them at arm's length for when they're useful and that's it.

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[identity profile] unseenspy.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
[Oh, something Jay is all too familiar with.]

...

Thank you.

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[identity profile] lt-linguist.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Trust always involves a certain amount of risk. I'd say it's up to you whether you take that risk.

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[identity profile] unseenspy.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
[Yes, Jay knows this from experience, but he was hoping for something more...]

So there is no way to know. I figured as much.

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latkje: (i've got a secret)

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[personal profile] latkje 2009-12-29 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Faith.

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[identity profile] unseenspy.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
"Faith?" Isn't that the same thing?

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wingenvy: (art-soft smile)

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[personal profile] wingenvy 2009-12-29 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think you ever really know, man- people can always change, after all, and you can't control them. But it's well worth it to believe that they won't leave you anyway. Life is all about risks! And nobody can live completely alone.

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[identity profile] unseenspy.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
[People change, you can't control them. Nobody can live completely alone. Jay knows this, but...]

...And what if they do leave you?

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[identity profile] baranodist.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
...You can't. It's that simple.

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[identity profile] victimofdestiny.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Trust?

Hmph.

The only one you can fully trust is yourself.

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[identity profile] unseenspy.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that's easy enough to say.

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fortunefail: (Sulk - Default face)

[personal profile] fortunefail 2009-12-29 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You're confusing abandonment with betrayal. The first has virtually nothing to do with trust. Most of the times, friends and companions don't choose to abandon you, after all.

[identity profile] unseenspy.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh?

[Yes, Jay is clearly confused now. Nami had clearly chosen to abandon him, right? Or maybe she was never a friend to begin with. Or was it really a betrayal?]

That's...hard to believe.

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hisdarkmark: (I have a proposition)

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[personal profile] hisdarkmark 2009-12-29 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
If you honestly have to ask if you trust someone, then you don't.

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[identity profile] headphones-nyan.livejournal.com 2009-12-29 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess... trust is when you care enough to let somebody hurt you?

[identity profile] mikangirl.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
[...is this about her? Is he serious? Because she dared to get upset because she was worried about him and he didn't spare her the simple courtesy of saying he was back?

Kid, Nami is officially stunned. But in light of how the other conversation went, there's not much point saying a word, is there? And frankly, with kidnappings of her own crew, she just doesn't have the energy to try and deal with this right now. She'll listen quietly to a few responses and then just quietly close her journal.]

[identity profile] unseenspy.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
[Jay has nothing to say to her either. He's already explained himself, and she still dared to get upset at him for circumstances beyond his control? It just wasn't right in his opinion.]
fallenambitions: (Take a look//And you'll see)

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[personal profile] fallenambitions 2009-12-30 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
You know there's no real answer to that.

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[identity profile] unseenspy.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
I...I know. I'm just looking for opinions. I should find my own answer from there.

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neverplaysfair: (Why show us what we can never reach?)

[personal profile] neverplaysfair 2009-12-30 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
You never can. Sometimes, you have to do it anyway.

[identity profile] unseenspy.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
I suppose so. That would be the simplest way to put it.

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[identity profile] earthrumblegod.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno. After you've been hanging out with them for long enough, you just know it. But I think it's all about knowing the person and believing in your own ability to judge them. I do think if you won't trust anyone, you're in for a really lonely life.

[identity profile] unseenspy.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
[Ponder, ponder. He can't think of anything to say...]

Mhm. Thank you.

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That's a funny question considering the shit you pulled.

[identity profile] unseenspy.livejournal.com 2009-12-30 09:28 am (UTC)(link)
What are you talking about?

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blessingone: (like you could save me)

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[personal profile] blessingone 2009-12-31 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
Uh. Well, if they've stuck with you through hard times, I guess. But you're overthinking it if you're asking.

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[identity profile] unseenspy.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
[Excuse the mistaken identity, since there were twins, one alive and one dead. So Jay will mistake you for the one that was alive.]

Th-Thyra?

Well, these particular people haven't really stuck with me through hard times. My recent experience has left me with something to think about at the very least.

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[identity profile] chaoticelement.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
To put it plainly, and simply, you cannot ever be certain of trust. All people retain the ability to betray that trust, unfortunately.

[identity profile] unseenspy.livejournal.com 2009-12-31 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
[Sigh...]

It's true, no matter what...

[As much as he hates to believe it.]

Thank you.

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